Wikidata:Property proposal/record number

record number

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

   Done: record number (P9994) (Talk and documentation)

Description	number or string identifying a record, document or certificate (e.g. birth certificate or death certificate) that is visible on the record
Data type	String
Domain	reference, possibly on Commmons, also on items for documents
Example 1	File:John F. Kennedy's Certificate of Birth - NARA - 192705.tif → 656
Example 2	File:Reagan Ronald BS (cropped).jpg → 9756
Example 3	Barack Obama birth certificate (Q14527788) → 151 61 10641
Example 4	File:John Francis Fitzgerald Record of Birth - NARA - 192707.tif → 419582 Named "copy of record of birth". Note Year 1863, Vol. 161, Page 14, No. 587 also included.
Example 5	File:LeBaron Hart Lindauer (1878-1945) birth certificate.gif → 419582
Planned use	add to references, based on c:Category:Birth certificates of the United States
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
See also	inventory number (P217): identifier for a physical object or a set of physical objects in a collection section, verse, paragraph, or clause (P958): paragraph, or other kind of special indication to find information on a page or on a document (legal texts etc.) catalog code (P528): catalog name of an object, use with qualifier P972 registration district (P5564): reference property indicating location for references to a civil or ecclesiastical registry

Motivation

Above lists a few alternative properties, but none seem really satisfactory. For date of birth (P569) of Kamala Harris (Q10853588), I found "State File Number 64-295984, Local Registration District and Certificate Number 6015 15318". Maybe the entire string could go in this property. One could obviously try to distinguish further: the entry in the registry, the certificate based on that entry, etc. (Add your motivation for this property here.) --- Jura 10:39, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

• Comment Ideally this would have a mandatory qualifier, otherwise it's not useful information, just arbitrary noise, like an accession number without a collection. "656" or "151 61 10641" mean nothing in isolation. -Animalparty (talk) 04:55, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
  • It's similar to some of the others listed in "see also" above or page(s) (P304): depending on how it's used (in references, as main statement, on Commons files), some additional information needs to be added with other properties. This can be qualifier, but could also be an additional reference property or another property used as main statement. --- Jura 13:42, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
• ' Support in particular for references. See discussion on civil registry --2le2im-bdc (talk) 20:21, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 21:33, 22 February 2021 (UTC).
•  Done @Jura1, 2le2im-bdc, Nomen ad hoc: created as record number (P9994). Enjoy! --99of9 (talk) 11:48, 16 October 2021 (UTC)